Tole je primer iz knjige Harrington on Hold ’em:
Expert Strategy for No-Limit Tournaments
Volume I: Strategic Play, stran 63

Example No. 3: You're playing an online tournament and just five players remain. The blinds are now $50/$100, and you have $4,300, a bit less than half the chips at the table. On the button, you pick up

A 8

The two players in front of you both fold. You raise to $200. The small blind folds but the big blind, a solid player with $1,100, calls, putting in another $100. The pot is now $450. The flop is

5 3 2

The big blind checks, and you bet $250, a little over half the pot. The big blind raises you to $500. What do you do?

Nazadnje urejal/a 4ever11 19 Okt 2007 13:50; skupaj popravljeno 3 krat

OK, verjetn bi večina foldala, jaz ne...

Za 250$ igraš za pot 1200$...oddsi 5:1, pade lahko 4 za lestvico, 8 oz. A za višji par od mize, torej 10 out-ov. Ampak če ma tip v rokah 99 je sam še 7 out-u.

Ne vem, verjetno bi bil pameten fold, ampak jaz bi v praksi zarinu.

Mi pa je všeč ideja da bi se razglablal o konkretnih primerih, sploh takih kjer mamo odgovor od pro-ja.

Ajt
Aleš

jaz bi bil za to. sem ze prebral par knjig pa sem potlej pozabil, tut zdele ne vem kako bi blo tole optimalno za odigrat, ceprav sem tale primer v tej knjigi ze predelal. takole se nam bo verjetno bolj vžgalo v spomin

sicer bi pa ugibal pri primeru, morda je fold bolsi ravno zaradi tega ker če ti že pade 4ka, ne boš mogu od njega dobit kaj dosti, saj mu prav veliko ne ostane pa tut sicer se zdi kot da nasprotnik slowplaya in vse skupaj se zdi kakor da bi z nizkim parom v roki flopnil tris in poskusa pocasi molzti.

No dolžan sem vam še odgovor na zgornji problem! Takole je odgovoril profi Dan Harrington!

Your first thought should be to throw your hand away. You did your bit, but a check-raise indicates strength, and all you have right now is an асе-high hand.
But before you fold, notice that it costs you only $250 chips to play a $1,200 pot. With almost 5-to-1 odds staring at you, it's worth spending a little time calculating your outs. Let's see what they are.

1. An ace might be an out, and there are three aces left in the deck. But it's not an out if your opponent is holding a higher ace-x.
2. An eight might be an out, and there are three eights left in the deck. But it's not an out if your opponent was slowplaying a higher pair.
3. A four might be an out, and there are four fours left out there. But if your opponent has an ace like you do, then a four gets you only a split of the pot.
So how many outs do you actually have? If your opponent check-raised with something like
7 7
then you have ten outs. But that's a somewhat weak holding for a check-raise, and the truth is that you have no idea how many outs you have. Remember too your opponent may have actually made a strong hand, in which case you may have zero outs.

This looks like a fold to me.

Nazadnje urejal/a 4ever11 18 Okt 2007 18:50; skupaj popravljeno 1 krat

Mislim, da se je prvi primer rešil sam od sebe. Kanar je razložil pot oddse in število outov, mufl0n pa ga je dopolnil s nekaj odličnimi idejami. Še posebej mi je bila všeč trditev, da v primeru da pade 4 prav veliko ne bomo potegnili iz nasprotnika, kar seveda drži!

V naslednem primeru pričakujem še več sodelovanja in novih idej!

Čaw